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Poster: Round Robin Date: May 13, 2009 2:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Who poured the ashes into the bay?

Just read Dark Star and it doesn't say who specifically poured the ashes into the San Francisco Bay and it mentions a screaming match as to who was to do it. Anyone know any more?

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: May 13, 2009 3:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who poured the ashes into the bay?

Dennis McNally covers this in more detail on pp 615-616 of Long Strange Trip. He gives a detailed list of who was on the boat (too many to type out), describes the bad treatment by Deborah Koons of Mountain Girl, and says that "All who so desired reached in and helped tip the bag over." Phil says at the end of his book that some of Jerry's remains blew back against the boat, Bob almost fell overboard while wiping them up in a handkerchief, and his wife (Phil's wife, Jill) later buried this. Phil and Bobby also took a small amount of ashes to India and poured them into the Ganges River.

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Poster: spacedface Date: May 13, 2009 3:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who poured the ashes into the bay?

Was the tide going out toward Pt Bonita or back in toward Pt Diablo?

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 14, 2009 12:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Iam just glad it wasn't OUR Ashes...

Everytime I scroll past this I have an image of something Mafia-esque having happened to either of OUR Ashes (Rising or Light)...

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: May 13, 2009 11:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who poured the ashes into the bay?

From Blair Jackson's Biography:

Unfortunately, when word came back to California that Bob and Deborah had disposed of some of Jerry's ashes without informing members of his family, there was quite an uproar. The San Francisco Chronicle ran a story about the India trip on its front page, with inflammatory quotes from Annabelle, M.G. and Tiff. M.G. said, "There was no reason on Earth to take Jerry's ashes to India — a country he'd never been to — and dump them into the most polluted river on the face of the Earth." (It turns out the Ganges is fairly clean in Rishikesh.) Annabelle commented, "We all feel left out. We have been extremely shafted by this woman [Deborah]."

Weir was stunned by the ferocity of the attack. "I am chagrined," he told the Chronicle. "I had gone over there intending to do this quite privately, on a mandate from the band. This was for us."

Shortly after the India trip, a second ceremony took place, in accordance with Jerry's wishes to have his ashes scattered at sea. This, too, was marred by bitter acrimony. The ceremony, which took place on a yacht owned by Bill Belmont, was to include Jerry's daughters and a number of intimates, such as Weir, Steve Parish, Laird Grant and various others. The problems began when M.G. showed up at the dock with Annabelle and Theresa. When Deborah arrived a little later, she began shouting at M.G., insisting that she not be allowed to get on the boat. "She was screaming at my mom right in front of me on the day she was going to spread my father's ashes," Theresa later told the San Francisco Examiner.

Deborah told the paper that she believed M.G. was planning to make a mockery of the service by having people on the boat put on clown noses and Groucho Marx-style nose-and-glasses when the ashes were being put in. But according to M.G., "We took two huge boxes of gardenias and many, many bouquets to put over with the ashes. We were going to simply throw over the Bozo noses to lighten it up a little because Jerry was fond of Bozo noses and Groucho glasses. It was to be a touch of lightness."

In the end, Carolyn Garcia was left on the dock crying. Bob Weir reportedly came close to jumping back onto the dock to join her, but decided to go on with the voyage. On a cold and miserable day with choppy seas, the boat headed under the Golden Gate Bridge into the Pacific Ocean near Point Bonita and people took turns throwing handfuls of flowers and Jerry's ashes into the churning waters. "It was so windy," Laird Grant remembers, "we all ended up with ashes all over us. They blew back in our faces. I just rubbed them right into my hair."

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 13, 2009 12:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who poured the ashes into the bay?

gonna wash that man right out of her/his hair

Phil has less than complimentary things to say about Koons regarding this episode on the boat.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: May 13, 2009 3:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who poured the ashes into the bay?

" Phil has less than complimentary things to say about Koons regarding this episode on the boat. "

as well he should. They should of all kicked Koons off. I mean what kind of b*tch would do that to his KIDS even. Can't even put aside differences with the ex for them or realize she was a part of the mans life?

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Poster: Round Robin Date: May 13, 2009 12:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who poured the ashes into the bay?

Is there a lot of antagonism between the band and koons still/at this moment?

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: May 13, 2009 12:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who poured the ashes into the bay?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWfuzQxPjFU

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